Friday, August 17, 2012

Standing on the Side of Love tongue-tied

12 comments:

Robin Edgar said...

That's strange. I thought that the UUA's Standing On The Side Of Love campaign actually had made a public statement about the Family Research Council shooting in Washington D.C. that expressly condemned the use of violence. Perhaps I was mistaken or perhaps SSL made the statement but did not post it on their main web page. I would suggest checking their Facebook page.

Bill Baar said...

Send me a link Robin, 'cause I sure missed it.

Robin Edgar said...

I just had a look at the SSL Facebook page. This very brief comment on this non-SSL blog post was posted on Wednesday. I recall seeing some Twitter references to it or something. So your concern is nonetheless justified in terms of a failure of the UUA's Standing on The Side Of Love campaign to issue its own public statement on this shooting.

Bill Baar said...

...and from Rev Morales?

Robin Edgar said...

Nothing that I am aware of, but he has blogged about gun violence etc. in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colorado, and issued a statement about the "wanton violence that occurred at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin".

Robin Edgar said...

The Standing On The Side Of love people are anything but tongue-tied, and engaging in some rather questionable rhetoric, regarding something that took place in your neck of the woods though. . .

We lament the recent rash of violence across the nation and decry the kind of language that makes excuses for, encourages, and even incites such violence. The fear-promoting words of Rep. Joe Walsh are a recent example of the sort of accusatory, bigoted rhetoric that betrays the cherished ideals of religious freedom and tolerance.
At a recent town hall meeting, Congressman Joe Walsh of Illinois’ 8th District made a number of insensitive and inflammatory comments about the American Muslim community. These kinds of comments are not helpful to our national conversation and perpetuate a culture of violence against American Muslims.
The following weekend, two different Muslim houses of worship were subject to violent, hateful attacks and a number of Muslim graves were vandalized in nearby Chicago suburbs. Violent rhetoric, like the language so often employed by Rep. Walsh, normalizes and enables this kind of violence.
Please join us in speaking out against this kind of hateful rhetoric and sign our petition to Rep. Joe Walsh today.
As Chicagoland Unitarian Universalist ministers, we choose to Stand on the Side of Love and ask all people to follow the path of peace, justice, and goodness called for by their own faiths. We ask that every leader, civic or religious, speak the language of common good and understanding rather than hostility and ignorance. We hope that Rep. Joe Walsh will step back from his angry and hateful remarks, apologize to the thousands of peace-loving, moral, and devoted Muslims, and, even more importantly, recognize that he has the power to help build bridges and defuse violence.
Let us reclaim a more peaceful society where religious freedom is protected and our beautiful diversity is celebrated. Leaders like Rep. Joe Walsh must change the language they use and participate in civil discourse rather than make accusations.
Click here to sign our petition to Rep. Joe Walsh, and ask him to end his use of inflammatory, hateful language.
We write this, not to condemn Rep. Walsh, but to ask everyone, particularly our leaders, to take stock of our language and to question whether our actions promote the ideals for which we, as a nation, stand. We can all speak and do better.
In faith,
Rev. Hilary Krivchenia
Countryside Unitarian Universalist Church
Palatine, Illinois
Rev. Connie Grant
Unitarian Church of Evanston
Evanston, Illinois
Rev. Emmy Lou Belcher
DuPage Unitarian Universalist Church
Naperville, Illinois

Bill Baar said...

Joe's making a play for the Hindu vote. http://www.firstpost.com/world/congressman-walsh-wont-smile-till-modi-is-invited-to-us-333443.html

It's hard to get past the fact Chicagoan David Headley helped plan the Mumbai attacks from Chicago.

Bill Baar said...

PS The 8th has one of the largest SW Asian communities in the US. Getting the Hindu vote might be the margin of victory for Joe.

Robin Edgar said...

The thing is that the Joe Walsh statements that the UUA's Standing On The Side Of love campaign are publicly condemning as "insensitive and inflammatory comments about the American Muslim community" that "makes excuses for, encourages, and even incites such violence" and "fear-promoting words" and are "accusatory, bigoted rhetoric that betrays the cherished ideals of religious freedom and tolerance" were clearly about militant radical Islamists and NOT the greater American Muslim community of which he said -

"While the overwhelming majority of Muslim Americans are as peace-loving as everyone else, there are radical Islamists right here in the United States trying to kill Americans and destroy this country."


Here is his allegedly "accusatory, bigoted rhetoric" that prompted the SSL accusations -

"One thing I'm sure of is that there are people in this country -- there is a radical strain of Islam in this country -- it's not just over there -- trying to kill Americans every week. It is a real threat, and it is a threat that is much more at home now than it was after 9/11," he said.

It seems to me that the Standing On The Side Of Love people are misrepresenting and exaggerating what Joe Walsh actually said.

Here is the source SSL provided-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/joe-walsh-radical-islam_n_1778971.html

Bill Baar said...

That's exactly what Joe said. I was there.

Robin Edgar said...

So in your opinion does it *really* constitute "insensitive and inflammatory comments about the American Muslim community" (as a whole)? Does it *really* "makes excuses for, encourages, and even incites such violence"? Is it *really* "accusatory, bigoted rhetoric that betrays the cherished ideals of religious freedom and tolerance"? Seems to me like the SSL folks' own self-righteous rhetoric is rather too accusatory. . .

Robin Edgar said...

In that you were at the meeting in question and actually heard what Joe Walsh said, and perhaps more importantly *how* he said it, I would be very interested in hearing what you think about how the UUA's Standing On The Side Of Love people have reacted to his words.